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Post by derecka4 on May 26, 2012 13:13:32 GMT -7
I have been thinking about doin gears in my charger for a while now, but have read mixed reviews on this. some say it is awesome some say don't do it. I know the stock gearing is 3.06.... LOW.... I know i can get 3.23 or 3.55's that they make for this car, or I could to a custom rear end where skys the limit... 3.73, 4.10.... any thoughts/ideas?
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2012 13:57:52 GMT -7
I think Chris (srt801) has had his done and I can't remember who else. I'm sure they'll chime in .
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Post by DartBoy01 on May 26, 2012 15:12:52 GMT -7
Gearing would definitely wake your car up without getting into the engine, I know Chris has been happy with his setup and will be able to give you some more in depth info as Eddy stated.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 6:09:24 GMT -7
I have been thinking about doin gears in my charger for a while now, but have read mixed reviews on this. some say it is awesome some say don't do it. I know the stock gearing is 3.06.... LOW.... I know i can get 3.23 or 3.55's that they make for this car, or I could to a custom rear end where skys the limit... 3.73, 4.10.... any thoughts/ideas? Guess it depends on if this is a daily driver(concerned bout gas and wear and tear) or full on track monster (meaning that this is purely meant for track) or combination of daily driver/weekend warrior (what I call, streetlight fighter, fun to drive, hit the track up from time to time, which is majority of the club) I have upgraded my gears from 3.06 to 3.73 with Limited Slip Differential. In my honest opinion, it was a fun mod at first, ripping through town with much more throttle response/acceleration of the line but it has been and still is taxing on my wallet, especially road trips as I now get roughly 20 MPG at 60 miles per hour on cruise control, yes 60 MPH and you should have seen the looks on the old people faces as they passed us during our little experiment trip to Idaho border to buy lottery ticket, and I am sure it didn't help that I was driving a 300, as I am often teased about being a senior citizen AAA car but back to the topic. I would only suggest getting gears, if you can find a ligthly used set for a fraction of what I paid. I brought mine brand new when the gear upgrade craze hit the LX platform. And at the time there were only 3 options, 3.06 getrag, 3.73 getrag and 3.92 getrag. I already had stock 3.06 gears so I wanted 3.73 cause I knew the 3.92 would be too much gearing for 5 speed auto and quite frankly 3.73 maybe a tad in my opinion, had I had a 6 speed auto or manual, it would be perfect but there is no way to keep my rpms down now which just burns more fuel. Now they have 3.23 and 3.55 gear rack and pinion set ups, which is more of an ideal gear ratio for the 5 speeds. I noticed right off the bat as well as many others across the National platform, it changed my gear /rpms through the trap in the quarter mile. I am now at the bottom of 4th, where as before I was at the top. In your research you probably have came across quite a few members looking to trade their 3.92 or 3.73 for the 3.06. And than there is the cost of going through tires, which I am sure the loose nut behind the wheel is a big part of ;D. Speaking of tires, if you want to changing the tire size, although I am not sure which direction on tire size you have to go for more gearing. In my honest opinion, I would strongly suggest getting a torque converter (higher stall) if you want more pep off the line. Getting a 2800+ or higher torque converter while help get these whales off the line alot. Most of them have improved to make them more street able. I have a 2800 Precision Industry in my car and it has passed the wife approved test, she doesn't even know its in there until you punch it off the line, I kinda know it there when in reverse, as it seems to take a little more throttle pressure to get her rolling but nothing too serious. So if I had to redo it again, I would have saved my $2200 and just did the torque converter ($400-800) camshaft ($400) and beefed up half shafts($600), especially you plan on tracking your car, and decide to get sticky tires ($400-$1200) to help combat the off the line spinning. 3.06 are actually pretty decent and there are more cost saving ways to get car more umph... Oh by the way, 3.73 and 3.92 are Mopar upgrades and 3.23, 3.55 and 4.10s are custom built rear ends such as quaife gears and Richmond. Good luck with decision, hope that this was somewhat helpful/useful and keep us posted of what you decide and progress of your build. By the way, curious to which LX/LY you have? Please feel free to post a introduction in the "introduction thread" and post pics of your ride as this is a visual club  . Invitation goes out to you if you want to take my car for a quick spin around, just let me know. Its nothing special but it might give you an idea of what or what you dont want to do lol *** Admin disclosure*** "Streetlight fighter" does NOT mean street racing, as this is very dangerous and illegal!, just referring as quicker acceleration. |
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Post by derecka4 on May 27, 2012 17:15:44 GMT -7
Man I never knew people could be so cool and nice, I'd love to see your car and take a spin man! Thanks for the info I had no idea Mopar made 3.73 or 3.92 and now I feel like an idiot, but now I know. The LX that I have is a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T. Silver, 100% stock right now other than a custom exhaust that is really really droney and a flat black srt8 spoiler I just barely put on there which is why I'm in dire need to get my vinyls on there. I am thinking about bigger wheels, 18's are on there now which on all honestly look like 12's on these huge cars. I have never thought about tire size with gears, as you can see I know a little but not alot about cars. I had heard about the torque converter and that seems like a better option... and I would LOVE to "cam my 5.7" but isn't 400-500 just for the cams? seems like a crazy expensive job... I'm doing visuals first and then I'm gonna work on performance so anything I do will be a ways down the line but ill probably start with the basics, intake, diablo etc... and now torque converter  Oh and yes daily driver - streetlight fighter. I'll have to get some different pics it wont let me post what I have they are too large of a file. |
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Post by Capone on May 27, 2012 17:21:11 GMT -7
Man I never knew people could be so cool and nice, I'd love to see your car and take a spin man! Thanks for the info I had no idea Mopar made 3.73 or 3.92 and now I feel like an idiot, but now I know. The LX that I have is a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T. Silver, 100% stock right now other than a custom exhaust that is really really droney and a flat black srt8 spoiler I just barely put on there which is why I'm in dire need to get my vinyls on there. I am thinking about bigger wheels, 18's are on there now which on all honestly look like 12's on these huge cars. I have never thought about tire size with gears, as you can see I know a little but not alot about cars. I had heard about the torque converter and that seems like a better option... and I would LOVE to "cam my 5.7" but isn't 400-500 just for the cams? seems like a crazy expensive job... I'm doing visuals first and then I'm gonna work on performance so anything I do will be a ways down the line but ill probably start with the basics, intake, diablo etc... and now torque converter Oh and yes daily driver - streetlight fighter. I'll have to get some different pics it wont let me post what I have they are too large of a file. Most of us use photobucket or something like that to post pictures. As far as show mods and not go mods I have far more show then go on mine. Maybe when I'm done with the show I will sneak over to Chris's house and borrow some speed lol. He and Ponch are the go to guys for speed and Gordy is no slouch and a plethra of others in this club like Harrison and Pattrick know there stuff RT722 knows the fast and is the MOD MASTER. So many things can be done and we have fun doing it weather it be show or go. |
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Post by ponch79 on May 27, 2012 18:31:28 GMT -7
If you have a r/t I would stick with 3.55 until you pass a certain amount of horsepower that's my 2 pennies. And my next choice for sure. I run the 3.06 in mine with a wavetrac for posi and have a 3000 precision industries converter it does ok
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Post by derecka4 on May 27, 2012 21:35:34 GMT -7
So you think it's a good idea to do 3.55's with the torque converter or stock gears?
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Post by Pogo (Dave) on May 27, 2012 21:55:49 GMT -7
Sounds like your getting pointed in the right direction. Looking forward to seeing your vinyl install and hearing wgat path you've chosen. Oh yeah, like Chris said... Introduce yourself and get those pics posted! ;D
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Post by ponch79 on May 27, 2012 22:06:14 GMT -7
Do 3.55 gears and torque converter
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Post by derecka4 on May 28, 2012 16:27:46 GMT -7
I Think 3.55's and torque converter it is, what torque converter should i get?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 18:20:52 GMT -7
Stock gear ratio for R/Ts are 2.87. Stock gear ratio for SRT8 are 3.06.
3.55 gears with wavetrac differential would be nice along with 2800+ stall.
I really like my Precision Industries but you want to explore Paramount Performance or Souhtern Hot Rod. Heard great reviews on both, they are a little more costly but sometimes you cant cut corners, besides, I believe they will build one to your future/current mods.
To Be honest, I would just get the torque convertor for now, see if that does what you are looking for. If anything ,I would see about getting a used 3.06 set up that someone has sold or even the 3.06 getrag setup for the LSD.
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Post by derecka4 on May 29, 2012 19:23:20 GMT -7
Stock gear ratio for R/Ts are 2.87. Stock gear ratio for SRT8 are 3.06. 3.55 gears with wavetrac differential would be nice along with 2800+ stall. I really like my Precision Industries but you want to explore Paramount Performance or Souhtern Hot Rod. Heard great reviews on both, they are a little more costly but sometimes you cant cut corners, besides, I believe they will build one to your future/current mods. To Be honest, I would just get the torque convertor for now, see if that does what you are looking for. If anything ,I would see about getting a used 3.06 set up that someone has sold or even the 3.06 getrag setup for the LSD. Seriously? I'm at 2.87? your sure?? That's nuts, I mean I'm not doubting you at all, thats just so low and in my circle I never get beat off the line. If thats the case I gotta fix that. Why is Mopar doin this to these modern muscle cars? they used to be all about performance and pretty much my car is faster than yours... period! nowadays they put 2.87 gears with a hemi in a 4k lbs car? kind of a joke. |
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Post by DartBoy01 on May 29, 2012 21:40:18 GMT -7
Seriously? I'm at 2.87? your sure?? That's nuts, I mean I'm not doubting you at all, thats just so low and in my circle I never get beat off the line. If thats the case I gotta fix that. Why is Mopar doin this to these modern muscle cars? they used to be all about performance and pretty much my car is faster than yours... period! nowadays they put 2.87 gears with a hemi in a 4k lbs car? kind of a joke. One reason, the government. Trying to get the best gas mileage as possible to even be able to market the car. |
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Post by derecka4 on May 29, 2012 21:43:19 GMT -7
Seriously? I'm at 2.87? your sure?? That's nuts, I mean I'm not doubting you at all, thats just so low and in my circle I never get beat off the line. If thats the case I gotta fix that. Why is Mopar doin this to these modern muscle cars? they used to be all about performance and pretty much my car is faster than yours... period! nowadays they put 2.87 gears with a hemi in a 4k lbs car? kind of a joke. Yeah i knew mpg and epa and all those nasty three-letter deals had a play, but dont ford and gm still gear high?... and that's why new mustangs a camaros eat our stock mopars?...  One reason, the government. Trying to get the best gas mileage as possible to even be able to market the car. |
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