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Post by johnny ca$h on Oct 10, 2011 8:42:43 GMT -7
HOW HARD IS IT TO UPGRADE MY BRAKES ON THE 300C TO SRT8 STANDARD? AND HOW COULD I DO IT COST EFFECTIVE?
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Post by DartBoy01 on Oct 10, 2011 9:07:21 GMT -7
Just thinking off the top of my head from doing big brake kits on other cars. Spindles or brake mounting is probably different allowing space for the bigger rotor and bigger caliper. Brake lines are probably different since the Brembo calipers have their own setup. Rotors are definitely different since they're going to be a bigger diameter. Calipers are also going to be different, and if your trying to get stock SRT 300 calipers they're Brembo's which run about $300+ PER CALIPER So if you've got the money to spend (guesstimate of $2,500+) then it might be a good investment. But if your not out there autocrossing the car every weekend, then there probably is no point. If you want a cheaper alternative, look around for big brake kits, STOPTECH makes kits that are usually very cost friendly and you'll probably get the same stopping power as the SRT brakes. P.S. On forums using all capital letters usually means your yelling what your typing little word to the wise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 11:28:58 GMT -7
Just thinking off the top of my head from doing big brake kits on other cars. Spindles or brake mounting is probably different allowing space for the bigger rotor and bigger caliper. Brake lines are probably different since the Brembo calipers have their own setup. Rotors are definitely different since they're going to be a bigger diameter. Calipers are also going to be different, and if your trying to get stock SRT 300 calipers they're Brembo's which run about $300+ PER CALIPER So if you've got the money to spend (guesstimate of $2,500+) then it might be a good investment. But if your not out there autocrossing the car every weekend, then there probably is no point. If you want a cheaper alternative, look around for big brake kits, STOPTECH makes kits that are usually very cost friendly and you'll probably get the same stopping power as the SRT brakes. P.S. On forums using all capital letters usually means your yelling what your typing little word to the wise. ^^^^^X2 What Harrison said, both brakes and cap letters ;D...... Unless you plan to track your car on a regular bases, its not worth the cost. Are you looking for visual or performance out of it? You can always just upgrade your Rotors with slot/crossed drilled at a reasonable cost. Check out R1concepts.
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Post by johnny ca$h on Oct 10, 2011 13:22:12 GMT -7
thanks... i dont mean to yell its just my father used to yell at me everyday untill he died of throat cancer so its in my blood =x
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Post by alpinewil81 on Oct 12, 2011 8:18:49 GMT -7
Another suggestion for better braking, this works on the rear of all except the SRT as well and is a very cheap and effective alternative over the oversized or SRT packages.
The police package cars come with an over sized rear rotor and performance pads. Its a brake package option noted as BR8 where I believe the 300C has the BR5. We can install this rotor on our cars, some caliper hangers, and reuse our existing caliper and pads or swap to some EBC pads for even more brake power. By moving the rotational mass out, it increases rear braking power by somewhere over 25% but not enough to through your ABS bias out of wiggity wack.
Pair that with an upgraded front rotor and pads and you'll be well under half what an SRT or oversized kit will cost. You can find the parts list on the national forum, lxforums.com.
I plan on doing this to mine this winter as all the LX cars have a bias that relies solely on front brakes, hence our cars dive when we drop the hammer on the brake pedal.
I run ATE Performance slotted rotors with matching ATE performance compound pads on the front. When cold, they kind of bite less than desired but when warm, they grab way more than the OE crap did... I'm planning on swapping my ATE pads with EBC all the way around once I install the police package rears. I hear its a hell of an upgrade on the AWD R/T and the R/Ts that do mild (as in not constant track driving) track and drag.
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Post by johnny ca$h on Oct 12, 2011 9:17:44 GMT -7
THANKS THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT WAY TO GO...
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Post by alpinewil81 on Oct 12, 2011 13:19:42 GMT -7
THANKS THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT WAY TO GO... It is, and easy cost affective with a great outcome. One more thing to consider here, I believe they used a two piston rear caliper in lieu of our mono piston rears??? That's just off the top of my head without looking at the parts list. Anyway, if that's the case there's even more gain if you include the police package calipers too... Just food for thought.
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Post by alpinewil81 on Oct 25, 2011 13:37:13 GMT -7
Here is a parts list to upgrade the rears without going oversized or SRT:
Parts are from RockAuto.com
ACT108 . . . . . rear pads (Akebono, ceramic) 780395P . . . . rear rotors (Raybestos) H16129 . . . . . caliper bushings
Parts are from Moparsupercenter.com
5175065-AB . . . rear caliper adapters, from Dodge
There are other options, you can always step up the quality of pad and rotor for even more and like always, do it to all 4 corners for even better gains. Next, add stainless brake lines and a high temp fluid and you'll be set. You can then look to the master cylinder and brake booster... both of which are higher powered in the SRT and the AWD R/T models. These won't be as good of gains as an oversized system, but it will definitely make spirited driving much more fun... over all your talking somewhere between 30%-50% better braking based on what combination of upgrades you do.
Not sure I'd go back to ATE...mine have officially warped twice under spirited driving. I'm going chryo treated with EBC pads next time.
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